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I've been thinking about this for a while but it came to a head today after a discussion with [livejournal.com profile] jerusalemorbust last night and a discussion between [livejournal.com profile] meredith_shayne and myself this morning. (Both of whom I hope will comment here. :D) The subject being multiculturalism and interracial relationships in novels and characters that are in some way disabled and characters that are over the age of 25. (Warning: this post does contain a bit of self-absorbed hyperbole alas.)



It's been on my mind so much, personally, because in writing my Archangels novel, I am very aware that choosing to have each of the ten Archangels be a particular race, I am putting myself out there to be potentially inflammatory and/or offensive. It's on my mind that I could be called a racist or accused of cultural appropriation. Not to mention the religion thing, but I'm choosing to ignore it for the simple reason that I ignore it in the book. They're Archangels, they have a job to do, there's no praying or reading of scripture or anything like that. They just happen to be made by God – and God means different things to different people – there's no pontificating about any religion because that's just not what I want to write about.

So, I have white, Maori, Indian (from India), Chinese, black, Russian, Columbian and Cambodian characters. I've asked a few people about describing these characters because I want it to be very clear that they are not the default of white, male, mid-twenties, because they can switch gender as they choose, they aren't all white, and, as Archangels, older than time itself, they really aren't in their mid-twenties. My main concern is stereotyping: I don't want to describe them too much but I don't want to scrimp on it, either.

They are, in their natural state, creatures of light and energy. They take human shapes so as to do their duties and interact with humanity and also, the pesky side effect of their natural state tends to blind and melt the brains of humans. So it's a protection for human eyes as well as a means towards interaction without too many problems. Of course, there are problems, because otherwise there would be no story, but that's not what I'm going to talk about here.

I don't want to do PoC a disservice or show disrespect in how I write these characters. They're all likable characters, they all have flaws. (She says with great modesty!) I don't want the colour of their skin or the race their chosen forms are to be a deciding factor in whether or not they're likable. In short, I am genuinely terrified of being disrespectful.



Then there's able bodied versus not so able bodied. I'm working on a sequel to City of Gold right now, and my two main characters are older men, one of them has less mobility than his partner. This is due to a war injury and because of it, his hip and knee play up. Now, that sounds all fine and probably, to someone who doesn't suffer this sort of pain and the debilitation that goes with it as it gets worse, nothing worth mentioning.

I want to say right here and now, that's bullshit. Chronic pain is, to be blunt, a bitch. I know; I live with it. Every. Single. Day. The pain and frustration my character suffers is familiar to me, because I deal with this myself. The atrophy of muscles, the irreparable damage to cartilage and nerves makes mobility difficult, makes joints sometimes unusable. This is hard for me to articulate here, actually – it's easier for me to do in fiction because I can separate myself from it, in a way.

The character doesn't talk about it unless asked directly and unless it's someone he knows very well, he'll just say it's a war wound and change the subject. (Setting is the Byzantine Empire, the year 1131AD.) Why doesn't he talk about it? Because he's ashamed.

I know what that feels like too. My own situation makes me ashamed to say the words, "I'm disabled." I hate that I feel shame when I say this, but the reaction to these two little words is either pity – and I don't want pity – or disgust. Neither reflect the reality of my life, but there we go. Now, I, like my character, don't want to go into the nitty gritty of it, but it wasn't a war wound for me. It is what it is, I live with it daily and I don't particularly like explaining it – even to medical professionals because there's always that lingering shame of it and that whatever I say will be met with pity and/or disgust.

And it is, each and every time. Even in, I'm afraid to say, some of my friends. I know they don't mean it, and I know it's not conscious. I know that the pity they exhibit is genuine compassion and they wish they could help or something, but... having this, living with this does not mean I need to be treated as any less a person. So yeah, it's a bugbear and I can completely understand why authors would feel concerned that they might give offence when writing a character with a disability that they themselves don't have or have direct experience with (i.e., caring for a relative, working in support for that disability, etc.).

Which brings me to my point, in a long winded way – how do we, as writers, approach these topics that we, personally, may not have experience with, without giving offence to readers who do ?


People are people and love is love. Age, race, religion, disability, sex – none of this should matter. Unfortunately, because of societal conditioning, it does. And that's terrible.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerusalemorbust.livejournal.com
I think I'm more intimidated to write injured or disabled characters than I am to write different nationalities, creeds, or cultures. At least those are mostly consistent, or I can research them to a point and they stay somewhat uniform. Injuries, on the other hand, are hard and no one heals the same. I can go to three different doctors and get three different opinions, so I can try my best and still be so off base about an injury that it probably deserves mocking on the net.

I still attempt to write characters like that, but there's more fear that I got something wrong.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
I did get a bit carried away with self-absorbed hyperbole there. Oops. But yes, very good point - just because that's what I feel doesn't mean that's what everyone else will feel.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerusalemorbust.livejournal.com
I think it was a good point, though. Even if a character is a different ethnicity than myself, they're still a human first. Cultures and environments might affect how they feel or why they feel certain things, but they still all feel shame, happiness, sorrow, love, etc.

Injuries come with limitations and frustrations that I myself haven't experienced and don't understand. I'm really not explaining this well, but injuries have a physical aspect that's hard to capture. Am I lingering too long on the pain? Am I brushing it off? Am I over/underestimating how the pain will influence the character's emotions or moods? Or will they need medications (if they live in a time with them) and will the medication influence anything? It feels like there's more variables to consider.

I don't want to end up writing anything like John Watson's migrating war wound that only flares up when convenient for the plot.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
No, I know what you mean. (I wish this headache and sleepy eyes would go away. It's annoying.) ANYWAY. Yes. Gallienus' injury comes up because being in a small space and not being able to stretch his leg properly causes it to ache, which leads Misahuen to be worried, which leads to other things I haven't written yet but are not necessarily sexual.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 09:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerusalemorbust.livejournal.com
He worries like a champ. I imagine the ride there was hellish too, because a full day on horseback is pretty terrible for people without any war wounds. I hurt thinking about it.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
Several days - working as part of a guard of a trading caravan. There would be lots of saddlesores, riding on uneven ground in a very warm part of the world. Anatolia/Cappadocia is pretty hot in summer.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meredith-shayne.livejournal.com
living with this does not mean I need to be treated as any less a person

This is the crux of it for me, because the simple fact is that our society sees people with a disability as lesser, and this bleeds into any portrayal we see in the media. I don't think the writers of these characters are even aware they're doing it for the most part, because the attitude is so ingrained. I have yet to see anything with a disabled character where it's not implied that they need to be fixed in some way. And of course you get the stereotypes: the poor, brave disabled person who overcomes such terrible obstacles and yet can still manage to smile, such a sweet girl (excuse me while I vomit), and the bitter and twisted disabled person who hates the world and everyone in it. My other issue is one of emphasis, although this can vary depending on a person's situation, since I acknowledge the fact that a person who becomes disabled later in life will be in a different mental position than someone who is born with a disability; generally, I feel that there is too much emphasis placed on the disability, with whatever it is consuming the person's whole life and their every waking thought, which of course it doesn't. But I think that an able-bodied person just can't imagine that it wouldn't consume your every waking moment, and so these are the pictures with which we get presented. It's very annoying.

But yes. In sum: my issues, let me show you them. :)

As for how we do it without offending people, first of all I think you have to accept that there will always be someone who doesn't like what you've done, and you need to be prepared to listen to that person if they tell you why they don't like it. Apart from that I think to write about these topics takes a huge amount of sensitivity, awareness (of self as well as in general), tact and openness.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
nd of course you get the stereotypes: the poor, brave disabled person who overcomes such terrible obstacles and yet can still manage to smile, such a sweet girl (excuse me while I vomit), and the bitter and twisted disabled person who hates the world and everyone in it.

This is a pair of tropes that make me cringe without fail. Yes, life can be hard. But it can also be good. Some days are better than others, not every day involves some Great Struggle.

awareness (of self as well as in general)

I think that's a good point, actually. To have that awareness, not just of a potential readership but of the self and how we react to prejudice of any kind, either as passive audience or participant (be it perpetrator or the one being prejudiced against.)

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meredith-shayne.livejournal.com
To have that awareness, not just of a potential readership but of the self and how we react to prejudice of any kind, either as passive audience or participant (be it perpetrator or the one being prejudiced against.)

How we react to prejudice and also our own prejudices, and how they might be colouring what we put on the page. I really think awareness is the key; if you keep in the forefront of your mind that writing these characters takes more than just getting the big picture things right, then you'll do all right. I don't think it's impossible for an able-bodied author to write a realistic disabled character, I just think that to do so takes a lot more effort than people realise.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angharad-gam.livejournal.com
I think you seem to have a firm grasp on the main idea - that everyone is human whatever else is going on. And I suspect if you write your characters that way you will get little complaint. I think it's the stereotypes that cause most offence - you know, the noble savage, the well-hung black man, and so on.

I would only note that there's more variation in Indians (from India) than most people think, and that Russians probably count as Europeans, unless you're thinking of Siberians, or people from the Central Asian republics like Kazakhs etc. If you want to be truly representative you might swap the Russian for someone from Central Asia or the Middle East. And there's probably one remaining major human 'racial' group you're missing and that's Melanesians (eg people from PNG).

As for the disability thing, same goes. There are those who say 'write what you know' but that doesn't help much in speculative or historic fiction :-). So we can only try to educate ourselves and avoid the stereotypes.

Have you read much by Lois McMaster Bujold? She has major characters with disabilities and with late life romances, and speaking as a relatively able and youthful person there were no major dissonances to me.

Date: Sat, Apr. 9th, 2011 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
Derp, I blame the tired brain. Yeah, Mumbai for India and Siberia for Russia. I've got China in there and one of my PoC's is Syrian. And that fills up all ten!

I haven't read Lois McMaster Bujold for years - I'll have to dig her stuff out again and refresh my memory.

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xakara.livejournal.com
I know this is two weeks old but as I stumbled on it today I wanted to add to it.

As a PoC, I think the first and last thing in your mind when you write a character of a different culture, ethnicity, religion, gender or ableness, is the question "but why". Every time you have a character whose experience you don't understand first hand do somethin, ask yourself why? If the answer is it's what you would do, or what your beta reader said was realistic, or what you gather from direct observation, then go with it and put it in front of as many betas as you can before you send it out into the world. If your answer is "well because that's what those people do", then stop, assess your own bias and start again.

There are some things that are always going to be "wrong" when it comes to writing another tribe of people. Cultural differences don't require a skin color and it's really the success or failure of capturing a culture that will garner praise or cause offense. In my Therian World and my Angelic Prophecies series that kicks off next year, my shifter and angels cover the spectrum of coloring and ethnicity, but their cultures are Therian and Celestial respectively. Each are knowledgeable in the human equivalent culture but their motivations and behaviors are of their preternatural culture and they act accordingly.

Your Archangels should be no different. The color of their skin, the texture of their hair and the shape of their eyes has nothing to do with the Angelic culture they descend from and that shapes their motivations. It's not cultural appropriation if the culture in question is an inclusive one of your own making. The point where you start making them act differently based in the human facade they wear, that's when you'll have crossed into dangerous, perhaps outright offensive territory.

Thanks for the friend add! :)

~Xakara

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
Thank you for this. I really mean it - this has been eating at me since I started working on it because I really don't want to be appropriating culture or anything like that.

As a PoC, I think the first and last thing in your mind when you write a character of a different culture, ethnicity, religion, gender or ableness, is the question "but why". Every time you have a character whose experience you don't understand first hand do somethin, ask yourself why? If the answer is it's what you would do, or what your beta reader said was realistic, or what you gather from direct observation, then go with it and put it in front of as many betas as you can before you send it out into the world. If your answer is "well because that's what those people do", then stop, assess your own bias and start again.

This is a huge relief to read, actually, because the whys, when I ask them of myself, are answered by, well, this is what I would do if I was in this situation.

Each are knowledgeable in the human equivalent culture but their motivations and behaviors are of their preternatural culture and they act accordingly.

That sums up exactly what I want to convey and in a succinct way that I didn't even think of. Reading this was very much an 'ah-ha!' moment for me because you said so perfectly what I was floundering around like a flailing fish!

Thanks again for this, I really appreciate it. And I very much look forward to getting to know you via our ljs! :)

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xakara.livejournal.com
I'm so glad to know this helped! Too often we get caught up in the surface and we try to express our differences in terms of skin color or facial features when it's about the cultures we were raised in or those we were able to observe first hand. For those of us who write paranormal fiction, the importance is to honor the cultures we create, while representing the rainbow of possibility those in the culture can visually represent. A great trick is to give them something that is completely inhumane to remind the reader that they are not dealing with human beings and human culture and therefore cannot expect to receive whatever they consider a human cultural response from the characters in question. It will keep them thinking beyond their own biases and in the story fully.

I would like to touch on something that struck me in your original post and that would be brought up for scrutiny in certain circles while discussing this topic.

So, I have white, Maori, Indian (from India), Chinese, black, Russian, Columbian and Cambodian characters

Why are white and black not capitalized in the context of the other ethnicities that you mentioned? If the premise is that they aren't ethnicities in and of themselves, something I accept, shouldn't they still be capitalized as cultures? I can't argue for "white culture" save to say the American cultural default is white, but if I use the words Black Culture, it's easily accepted as a measurable social phenomena. So why the lower case? And to be clear, when I say Black Culture, I don't mean African-American Culture, which is different.

There are many people in American (we can discuss nationalism at some point as well if you wish), that are living within Black culture that are not African-American but instead, Haitian, Dominican, Puerto Rican, West African & South African students/diplomats/exiles, British, French, or Canadian expats, and more, but the common thread is that they are all Black in America and therefore all living the Black Experience and participating in Black Culture despite not being African-American. Do you see why I asked the question?

These are little things that will come up when speaking about ethnicity and culture and how to appropriately approach it with sensitivity and respect. But they are the same things very often not spoken of in a public forum to in turn help foster an understanding between those for whom ethnic heritage defines their culture and those who have a more regional based culture.

I look forward to getting to know you as well and I hope we can both be as helpful as possible to each other!

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
Ohh I see. I'm Australian, so this is something I'm not well versed on (obviously as demonstrated with the lack of capital letters.) Can I ask how African-American Culture differs from Black Culture? I'm not trying to be obtuse, I genuinely want to understand and learn.

Also, if I can use you as a sounding board for a moment, I'm describing how each Archangel looks, only the once, to set the stage so to speak for the fact that they aren't identical, that each Archangel is an individual and unique, just like each race and culture on Earth. Can you give me an example of a respectful way to describe the two Black Archangels? I'm establishing one as being African-American (Raphael) and the other as being Ghanian, spending most of his time in the continental US when not working (Samael).

I freely admit I'm woefully ignorant on this topic and I don't want to be. I want to be informed and with that, be able to write these cultures with sensitivity and respect. Thank you again for being so willing to discuss this with me.

Answer part I

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xakara.livejournal.com
That's not a short answer, I'll probably have to do this is two comments, but that's okay. :)

There are scores of books and entire courses of study based on breaking down the Black Experience, Black Culture and African-American Culture and Experience. I look at the difference in terms of background and experience and inclusive vs. exclusive. African-American Culture is the shared experience of an entire hue of skin colorations, socio-economic circumstances, and educational backgrounds that are superseded by the commonality of expression and oppression. For African-Americans, as for all cultures, that expression of shared history and identity comes through in music, clothing, food, celebrations, lexicon and an inherent resonance with what it means to be Black in American.

The Black Experience on the other hand, is global. Regardless of your country of origin and the regional identification, there is a unique experience to being Black in the Western & Western-influenced World. Despite our individual genetic histories, the shared ancestral legacy of slavery and oppression, along with modern bigotry and ignorance binds us together. You can take someone of African descent from Canada, the United States, South America, Spain, England, Algeria, Angola, South Africa, Egypt, Inda, Mongolia, Australia and New Zealand and have them walk together down a street in Midwest America and they are all Black. They will all be treated with the same biases, be they good or bad, and they will have the same experience for as long as they are in the same location.

So while the African-American Experience is local and the culture internal, the Black Experience is global and the culture external. All African-Americans are Black but not all Blacks are African-American. Your two Archangels will be treated the same when they walk down the street, but if Raphael lived a human life, he'd have a different culture base than Samael would have had in Ghana, but they're both in America from what you said, so where Raphael's African-American Culture and Samael's Ghanaian Culture overlap, is their shared Black Experience and the Black Culture that comes from that experience.

Going from the global and inclusive definition of Black Culture, to the nationalist explanation, Black Culture is the accumulation of cultural influence by all those internally and externally identified as Black in the United States regardless of how they individually identify. So again, all African-Americans are included in the term Black Culture but not all who identify as Black consider themselves African-American.

I think one of the best ways to really take in a cultural sensitivity is to hear and read about the experiences of each ethnicity in the words of those who've lived it. There are countless essays and documentaries and studies and where you don't have to turn it into a second career, I think it's imperative that we all dedicate time to each culture or ethnicity we wish to represent in our writing and that we take every opportunity to soak in that knowledge when it's presented. I watch everything I can that comes concerning ethnic migration and the experience of PoC in the U.S. and abroad because I know my story is only one way it could have happened. The greater the variety of stories I learn I want to learn the more effectively I can touch on those different threads and weave a new narrative for my character.

It can seem daunting, but the information is out there and much of it in easily digestible form in order to encourage understanding across cultures and ethnicities.

Answer part II

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xakara.livejournal.com
Now to answer your question, how you describe the two characters will depend on how you describe all of the characters. You want consistancy across the board so as not to fetishize or isolate any one ethnicity. That means if you use food descriptors, use it for all of them, nature-based, then nature based for all. Most important, and where I think most folks trip up, don't describe their ethnicity for the sake of describing it. Always put it in the context of the scene in contrast, compliment or action. "The bright white napkins made the olive hue of his hand seem darker, more vibrant." "Large, vibrant eyes seemed all the bluer staring out from the dark, vanilla bean face." "He placed a pale hand on the pummel of his sword, the blue gems in the hilt a near match for the dark veins visible beneath his skin."

Now if they all arrive someplace together the first time, then it would be appropriate to describe them all at once in turn, but I give the fair warning that if you only describe them once, especially if it's all in the same scene, by the time your reader is later in the book, all of the angels will look the same. They won't recall which is which, without subtle reminders throughout the work for those characters that carry the story.

And I'm happy to be a sounding board. I'm working through my own Angelic mythos so it's helpful on both sides. :)

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
This is all *enormously* helpful. Looking at articles/essays/abstracts/news reports is an excellent suggestion and I'll definitely do that. I link hop, so I see myself reading and watching a lot of interesting and informative stuff.

Those descriptions and examples are fabulous. I find that sometimes I get so caught in the box of what I want to say versus how to say it that breaking out of the box of want into the wider realm of the how needs a good, hard kick from a third party - and this is perfect. This has given me so many ideas to follow up on and I really appreciate it. It's a good point that readers won't remember without subtle reminders throughout the narrative - definitely something I'll keep in mind.

Thank you for clarifying the differences too, in Cultural Experience, I've already learned so much from what you've explained to me and I really do appreciate it.

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xakara.livejournal.com
I'm so glad to have helped! Keep me updated on how it all goes. I'm happy to keep breaking this down as you come to certain points and I'm open to speaking on everything about culture, ethnicity, gender, and religion. I don't know if I have crit time coming up as I'm under deadline, but I can beta read at a future date if you like.

I'm so glad we started talking today!

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
I will certainly take you up on that, thank you. I don't expect to have it anywhere near finished for a while - I've set myself a minimum word count of 60K and winter's coming here which makes my disabilities flare up because the cold agravates *everything*, but I intend to have it done by the latter part of the year at least. I hope!

I was raised a Mormon (no longer one - I left the LDS when I was 16 and that was a looooong time ago!) and part of my degree was History of the Early Church which was absolutely fascinating, so I'd love to talk religion and theology as well.

I am too, it's been awesome. I'm really glad I friended you, I wish I'd looked at the Goodreads LJ forum posts earlier.

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
*Early Church = early Christianity as a movement, from the first century A.D.

Date: Tue, Apr. 26th, 2011 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xakara.livejournal.com
I was raised Catholic and actively walked away from it at 14 but continued on at Catholic school through graduation at 17. It's amazing to contrast my experience being in a Catholic environment and learning religion vs. being in the scholarship environment of Comparative Religion courses.

I'm sorry to hear about the cold causing you problems. I've been having mobility issues for several months and I'm hoping the coming summer will finally ease them. I'm trying to avoid knee surgery but as each year passes I'm beginning to think it might not be an option. I'm going to fight it to the end though!

I have two revisions due in the next two weeks and then edits on my summer release. After that I have a 60k due July 5th and another due September 5th, so it's a little crazy on my end of things right now. Book one of The Angelic Prophecies is going to be 80K and hopefully done in November, December at the latest. That's 200K in 8 months, doable if it flows but a little crazy considering I don't know what the rest of the year brings.

I've spent the last year as a statistic of the recession. The non-profit I worked for closed its doors last March with little warning. There was supposed to be a follow-up service that we were all eligible for later that year, but it never materialized. There's been financial considerations of course, but it was the best thing for my writing. After a very long pause I finally got my second publishing contract last July, had a Christmas release, got my third contract in March that will have a July release and should be hearing back on my fourth contract sometime in the next week with eagerness for me to turn in book three by July which would be my fifth contract and release in December.

All of that is possible because I was home. I don't know what happens when I'm back in the workforce. Right now it looks like I'll be back in the game in June, full time, benefits, the works and I'm grateful, I truly am. I'm just concerned.

Okay, It's almost 4:30am here, I should go and sleep. Have a wonderful day and I'll talk to you later. Are you on facebook?

Date: Wed, Apr. 27th, 2011 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
I went to a state school - I thank my lucky stars that the one I went to was as good as it is. It's the only high school dedicated to languages and multiculturalism in the state and I took Mandarin Chinese for three years and French for four. At the time I was there (as it's a loooooong time ago now hahaha!) it's fair to say there was, in the student body and the teachers themselves, no minority group. There was an equal mix of race, culture and religions. It was almost a Utopian bubble in a sense - we were educated in languages and cultures and our social groups weren't predominantely White or Chinese or Serb; they were groups of kids who hung out together because they were friends and had things in common, not based on anything else. My best friends were Cantonese, White Australian, Aboriginal Australian, Hawaiian, Ukrainian, Greek and Serbian - it never really hit me how horrible humans could be to each other because of prejudice until I graduated high school and went to university. Educationally, it was one of the top three schools in the state, so we all got an amazing learning environment as well. Friends who have kids who go the school now have the same multicultural and educational experience. I wish there were more schools like it.

From that, I went to uni and did a BA in film making and history. History is my main love, particularly medieval and Byzantine. Post uni, I wrote a thesis on women's clothing in the 12th and 13th centuries which was peer reviewed and has been used in a lot of things, from TV documentaries to historical reenactment of the period, the latter being something I loved doing until several years ago when the disabilities grew worse and put a major kaibosh on *all* activies.

I feel your pain with the knee issue - joints are awful when they're damaged. I don't blame you at all for fighting the surgery as long as possible, I'm in a similar situation and baulking because I had two surgeries on my left wrist - which is now totally unusable - that went wrong. My mind set atm is that I'd rather deal with the pain as best I can and have the limited mobility that I do than go through surgery and risk it not working because of my experiences with my wrist.

That is an amazing amount of writing you've got lined up, I'm in awe that you're able to get it done in that time! Who do you publish with? I'm a sucker for angel-based fiction, so I'll be making a note of your Angelic Prophies novel for when it comes out.

I can understand the concern - the time and energy that work takes up and then figuring out how much of both is left over at the end of the day for writing is sometimes like juggling greased juggling balls. Which part of the US are you in? I visited for the first time last year and saw Oregon, Washington state, DC, Maryland and parts of Philadelphia and LA and Canada - I loved it, such a beautiful country and everyone was so warm and friendly and welcoming. It was a wonderful experience and I'd love to go back.

I am on Facebook, though I don't use it much. Most of my social networking is done on Twitter and here on LJ. I never thought I'd have much use for Twitter and now I'm addicted to the thing!

Date: Wed, Apr. 27th, 2011 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xakara.livejournal.com
I keep trying to get into twitter but I honestly forget that it's there. I've even placed it on my tool bar next to my facebook icon so that I can remember but it slips my mind all the time. I'll add you to my list of twitter addicts that might be able to drag me into it if I bug them enough. *smile*

Facebook is my homepage so it's the social media I'm addicted to. Between updates, notes, groups, chat and games, it's the most inclusive site for my time. That said, I know twitter is important on the promotion front among other things and I'll definitely work on it.

I need to get back here to LJ regularly again. I do the weekly Thursday Thirteen and have built that habit up, now I need to voyage into a second day a week until I'm producing at least three blogs a week. Hopefully that'll lead into becoming active in the LJ communities again as well.

I'm originally from Wisconsin in the midwest, right in the Great Lakes region. Now, I'm in the American southwest in New Mexico. It has beautiful mountains and desert landscape, but I'm hoping to move soon to Colorado or Washington State. I love the mountains but I miss the water and being surrounded by green, and Colorado and Washington have both. We're building our savings back up from scratch after the double layoff so I think that 2013 is the most realistic time frame for the move. I'm excited about it!

My first release, SHIFTING PASSIONS is with Samhain Publishing. GHOST OF CHRISTMAS PAST (PsiCorps #1) is out with Liquid Silver Books and DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT (PsiCorps #2) will be out in July with LSB as well. I'm hoping to place a Halloween, Christmas (PsiCorps #3) and Valentine's Day story with them in the next five months as well as an erotic urban fantasy novel. I have a steampunk I'm revising to sub to Carina Press and I'm hoping they'll pick up my Angelic Prophecies series when it's done, so keep your fingers crossed for me!

I need to get some rest, I've had a headache for the last several hours and it's gettings worse, I likely need to stop staring at the computer and rest my eyes for a bit.

Is the Archangel story the most pressing WIP you have going, or is there something shorter that will be finished next?

Date: Fri, Apr. 29th, 2011 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
Ugh, sorry about the delay in reply there - this has been a very painful few days.

I tend to use twitter for just about everything - links I find interesting, chatting with friends, random musing, grumbling about pain and of course, talk about my writing. The challenge of writing something in 140 characters appeals to me, too. And I've met a lot of wonderful people through using it, as well as having some amusing experiences - I use gomiso.com, which is a movie/tv applet that posts when you log in to say you're watching something and when I did it for a movie called "Gentlemen Broncos," I was suddenly friended by dozens of fans of the sports team, The Broncos. And online betting agencies. I had to tweet that no, "Gentlemen Broncos" had nothing to do with sport and I never tweet about rugby (my sport of viewing choice is world cup soccer!) so they were going to be very disappointed if they were hoping for Broncos chat!

Thursday Thirteen - like a Friday Five but on a Thursday and with thirteen things? That sounds awesome. I'm a big fan of LJ and oh, when it was down bc of the DDOS, that was a small revelation in how much I use it.

Good luck for the move! The economy's been such a kick in the pants for everyone. Sometimes I think the governments of the world should all agree to scratch all international debt and start from scratch, with no one owing anyone else any money. Which will never, ever happen, it's like a wistful dream. I'm sorry to hear you and your partner were both laid off work.

Ooh, good luck with Carina! I've heard nothing but good things about them, so I hope they pick up your Angelic Prophecies series. I'm working on two novels at the same time because I'm a glutton for punishment, one's the Archangels one for Noble and the other is a 12th century Byzantine empire story for Dreamspinner. That one's slower going as I have to research things that I'm not 100% sure on, but the research is fascinating, so I've been doing a lot of reading and peering at maps thoughtfully. I'm excited about both of them, I can ramble happily about things I've found in the history of the Silk Road for hours! I've got a short story coming out in June with Less Than Three press in an angel themed anthology and another with Freaky Fountain Press coming out in July in a mythology anthology, and I'm sure the plot bunnies will give me ideas for other short things as I work on the novels. The plot bunnies are evil and demanding creatures.

I hope your headache went away, if you're near a health food store, I highly recommend some peppermint essential oil and some eucalyptus essential oil. Just inhaling them helps the headache go away, along with painkillers and rest, etc.

Date: Fri, Apr. 29th, 2011 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xakara.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear there's been pain. You have my empathy as I've been limping along due to my knee issues and using gel cool packs to battle the headaches.
Thank you for the reminder of the peppermint and eucalyptus essential oil, byt the by. I'll have to see about a side trip to Whole Foods, Trader Joes or Sunflower and see what it yields.

Thanks for the luck with Carina. I got a pass on a shifter story I submitted but the revise/resub allowed me to expand the story by over 20K words and it was all the better for it. The initial R&R as well as the pass, were incredibly detailed and enthusiastic about the work. There was true regret in not being able to offer contract and sincerity in the invite to sub something else, so I'm looking forward to it and hope to work with them soon. My only concern is that the editor that I worked with on the R&R is going through some things and off her game. I hope that when I get around to getting my subs in (three in total), that she's back on track and ready for a new author.

Can you tell me more about your experience at Noble Romance Publishing? They're on my short list for my upcoming stories and I'd like some personal insight. We can take this to email or private message if you like. I know it's better to be as private as possible in feedback, even when it's nothing but positive.

Plot bunnies are indeed evil things. I have a historical menage nagging at me and I hate the idea of doing a historical. I don't retain dates and such well and the whole thing makes me self-conscious, yet the idea won't go away. I've already struggled through working in a genre I didn't like for a charity piece that then didn't go where we'd hoped. But that's okay, I'm revising it for a call at Carina and hope to have it be my first work with them. But having struggled through a steampunk, I know that only woe lies down the historical path, yet still, there it is. Sigh.

If I recall correctly, Friday Five is a meme of five questions answered by the participants. Thursday Thirteen is a list of 13 things each week that are completely up to you. Today I did 13 songs from my writing playlist. I tend to do excerpts of 13 paragraphs from a WIP or as a guest blog from fellow authors. I did one recently on natural sleep aids since the insomnia has been doing its thing. So it's anything you wish at the time. I love it. It can be a bit of work if I remember last minute, but it's worth it and has built a loyal readership. I also appreciate the fact that it's reciprocal. I go and visit a T13 and they visit me so I can get as many eyes on my page as I'm willing to visit other pages. They might not all comment, but the majority do visit based on my stat logs.

I can see how twitter really allows for mass communication and challenging communication at that. I just haven't caught the hang of it. I've had conversations with a few fellow authors from different loops, but I don't always know how to jump in and what to say to whom. I do want to pick it up though, I can see how valuable it is just from how much I use facebook. I just gotta pick it up and get a handle on it.

Do you workout at all? I'm exhausted but I still need to workout before I get to head to bed and I'm listing to the left about it. *smile* I'm still going to do it, but I reaaallly don't want to. In my defense, most of it is that I don't want to go into the other room. I'd rather workout here so I can finish watching this show. But even if I bring my hula hoop out and do it, I'm supposed to ride the bike for at least ten minutes, so I'm stuck going in there regardless. It's my own fault, I should have done it early today, but the insomnia has me used to middle of the night workouts and I fall into that habit with the least provocation.

Hmm, if I trade time on the bike for dancing and then do a full bike workout tomorrow, that evens out right? *wink*

Date: Fri, Apr. 29th, 2011 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misslj-author.livejournal.com
It's been a challenge, that's for sure. I just put a rogan josh curry on the stove to cook and what was really very little preparation (cutting up the meat, mostly,) has me now shaking like a leaf. Not to mention my bad wrist is Not Happy, so hooray for one hand typing! Gah. It's so frustrating - if it's not my knees, it's my wrist or my jaw or my blood pressure dropping like a stone or or or. Phooey, I say!

I love historicals, though my history interests are fairly rare in romance, especially as I'm *such* a nit picker myself. It's because I know my own nit-picking that I'm doing so much research. I've also been picking the brains of a good friend and co-writer on medieval Korea and China, as one of my two main characters is Korean and he and his lover who is Greek Byzantine are heading towards China. So it's a Byzantine-medieval period road novel. On horses. It also allows me to write about places that have fascinated me since I was a child, and cultures and history of those cultures that I love reading about. The countries the Silk Road goes through are full of all these amazing ruins with so much history and oral history attached to them, that I find myself losing entire nights on reading and looking at beautiful photos.

Oh righto - that sounds like a lot of fun. I might give it a go next Thursday, when I'm not Ms Shake-a-lot! (Though the smell of this curry is amazing and if it tastes half as good as it smells, it'll be worth it.)

I walk, although the idea of a hoola hoop is an awesome one and I think I'll have to invest in one because that's something I could actually physically do. I usually queue up the playlist of whatever I'm writing on my iPod and walk, although I'm slow because of the disabilities. And when it's wet weather, the hoola hoop would be an awesome alternative. Thanks for giving me the idea, that's brilliant!

My email addy is MemorySorrowThorn@gmail.com so feel free to drop me a line. :)

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